Hah! That's awesome! I've built my gaming machines myself (I've only had to do 2 in the past 15 years, lol), and passed down my previous build to my son (which is still plenty to play any newer game), only having to upgrade the GPU and replace one fan in his over the years. So I'll knock on wood too, that my stuff keeps holding up strong. :)
Hah! That's awesome! I've built my gaming machines myself (I've only had to do 2 in the past 15 years, lol), and passed down my previous build to my son (which is still plenty to play any newer game), only having to upgrade the GPU and replace one fan in his over the years. So I'll knock on wood too, that my stuff keeps holding up strong. :)
That's cool, we are finding the old server with the GPU is not holding
up like it used to. Seems the processor is just pegged almost 98% when
he's playing Fortnite... He has to turn settings off or down just for
the processor to keep up. He's definitely not getting what the GPU can deliver.
This would be maybe the only reason I upgrade my server now to pass this down to him. Then again, he's been saving up for a new mother board,
ram, and a processor. Everything else has been brought up to speed. New case, PSU....
But he's only 13, so it's not like he's making a pay cheque. He also
likes having money set aside and doesn't want to blow it all on this.
As of late, I picked up a GMKTec K8 Plus that I'm using as my main
computer outside my work laptop. It allows for gaming, the little bit
that I do.
On that note, I have way to many gaming systems. PS5, PS4, Xbox, Arcade,
and now this mini pc. And I barely game. :D
Maybe I should sell?
BTW, I looked a little deeper into those mini PCs you were talking
about. It's crazy how they can cram that much stuff into like a 6" x 6"
x 3" box. They also boast great cooling, which I find quite hard to do with what they're working with. Up to 3 or 4 displays even.. Crazy!
You mention 'server' here. Are you using an old server (with server hardware) to play games? I'm not sure the low ghz and multi cores are built to do that kind of thing..
BTW, I looked a little deeper into those mini PCs you were talking
about. It's crazy how they can cram that much stuff into like a 6" x 6"
x 3" box. They also boast great cooling, which I find quite hard to do with what they're working with. Up to 3 or 4 displays even.. Crazy!
This is almost exactly what I was looking at above. The space saving and initial specs are pretty awesome! Currently, though.. I'm not sure I
could use it as a server as it seems like you would be wasting the thing just for the cores and ram, but the price is definitely on point when these things are new vs some used refurbished/renewed server hardware. Damn man, now you have me looking into this more. :)
The K12 is probably the cheapest out of the GMKTec family ($550), but seems to have the best expansion (up to 24tb ssd and 128gb ram). Oddly enough, this price point is better than finding old server hardware with enough ram/hdd space. Now I have to start looking into this more.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID (and I'll probably thank you for it later). :D
That's up to you. I gave up on consoles after I bought a brand new PS4
(at the time) with the whole VR setup. The kids used it for a few months and completely forgot about it. At least if my son forgot about his PC I could use it for something else. Never again will I go the console route.
Nightfox wrote to Accession <=-
In the mid-late 90s until the mid-2000s or so, I remember building a
new PC every few years or so. But lately, it feels like there haven't been as much improvement in speed & things to make me want/need to
build a new PC that often.
fusion wrote to Accession <=-
it's almost (if not already) to the point where some weird m.2 to 6
port sata thing frankensteined on top of a mini pc with a
multi-hard-drive enclosure (that the mini pc also fits inside) could be totally reasonable. a whole collection of VMs and all. and probably
using a 10th of the electricity..
niter3 wrote to Accession <=-
Yes, the server is 12 years old... I think it's also suffering from
over heating issues because he complains it just turns off.
Replace the thermal paste and clean the fans if you're feeling handy. I
saw a significant drop in temp with my old Core 2 quad when I did that.
Cooler systems run quieter, don't throttle, and certainly don't shut
down.
Yes, the server is 12 years old... I think it's also suffering from
over heating issues because he complains it just turns off.
HA! :) Right... I'm using this mini pc for my daily driver and
gaming on it... Running this under Ubuntu at the moment under XFCE.
Nice and fast!
Just dealing with your typical Anti Cheat messages and proton
settings.
That seems how it goes. I had this vision my kids all playing on
this arcade build, and everyone from parties using it. :) It's
gaining dust.
overheating it, and if it's server hardware, those fans gotta be
SCREAMING while he's playing. ;)
May I ask, what are you playing? And have you ran into any games that /don't/ work with Proton? I would love to ditch Windows completely,
but I need all my games to work properly.
I think servers, in general, aren't really meant to play games, unless their specs are outrageous and you have some kind of RTX video card (or something similar from AMD) in it. It could just be that the games are overheating it, and if it's server hardware, those fans gotta be
SCREAMING while he's playing. ;)
Welp, after looking into what it would take to get the storage and ram where I'd want it, we're probably talking almost 2 grand. The price of
ram has skyrocketed, and the newer m.2 drives haven't come down in price yet, especially for bigger (4-8tb) ones.
May I ask, what are you playing? And have you ran into any games that /don't/ work with Proton? I would love to ditch Windows completely, but
I need all my games to work properly.
I've not found anything that doesn't run under proton/wine now.
I've installed old games from my GOG library, newish ones like
Cyberpunk, avatar etc.
I do not play online games though, and I believe that is where the
issue lies with anti cheat stuff.
I'm still testing, but so far the only game giving me trouble and I
still haven't gotten to work is RDR2.
I do not play online games though, and I believe that is where theI do, and am definitely interested in the state of things nowadays.
Welp, after looking into what it would take to get the storage and ra where I'd want it, we're probably talking almost 2 grand. The price o ram has skyrocketed, and the newer m.2 drives haven't come down in pr yet, especially for bigger (4-8tb) ones.
Everything is to damn expensive these days.
Everything is to damn expensive these days.
Reading this a month later makes me sad that RAM prices _still_ seem to
be skyrocketing:
pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory
Are tariffs to blame?
It's not only new equipment, and of the retro equipment is priced so
high it makes zero sense to purchase. Amiga speaking...
In this case, no.
Yes, tariffs have increased costs, but this memory price thing is hitting worldwide, not just in the US.
I heard something about the producers trying to do something to slightly increase prices, but I don't know enough to know if that's a conspiracy theory, or the industry back to its old price fixing tactics.
But the demand from all the genAI buildout appears to be the actual
cause for the increased prices, followed by companies buying up
everything they can before the prices go up further, thus causing the prices to go up further.
I heard something about the producers trying to do something to slightly increase prices, but I don't know enough to know if that's a conspiracy theory
or the industry back to its old price fixing tactics.
But the demand from all the genAI buildout appears to be the actual cause for the increased prices, followed by companies buying up everything they can before the prices go up further, thus causing the prices to go up further.
And the fact that one of the three companies making RAM decided to exit the consumer business to focus on genAI customers doesn't help, either.
And the fact that one of the three companies making RAM decided to exit the consumer business to focus on genAI customers doesn't help, either.
I think you found the nailhead there. The demands of data centers, and the focus of the suppliers, is causing shortages (and higher prices) for the rest of us.
And the fact that one of the three companies making RAM decided to exit the consumer business to focus on genAI customers doesn't help, either.
I think you found the nailhead there. The demands of data centers, and the
focus of the suppliers, is causing shortages (and higher prices) for the rest of us.
I hope when the wheels fall off all this generative AI stuff that all the high
performance RAM and GPUs flooding into the markey can be snapped up for a pittance by cancer research organisations or something actually useful.
Or even just bought by the gamers who got costed out of the market...
Bob Worm wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I hope when the wheels fall off all this generative AI stuff that all
the high performance RAM and GPUs flooding into the markey can be
snapped up for a pittance by cancer research organisations or something actually useful.
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