12 is Bookworm? 13 is Trixie?

Yes, that is correct. ;)

I upgraded my Proxmox boxes to 9.0, they're running trixie in the
background. I don't see any difference.

I've been trying to find a distro for use as a desktop, trying to find
the right eye candy. Mint is nice, Bodhi is interesting, but I might go
back to Debian and focus on an old-school window environment.

On my BBS machine, I didn't see much difference. On my other machine, I
did notice some odd quirks that have more to do with the software that was upgraded... the GIMP, Audacity, Shotcut... but the OS seems mostly the
same. I didn't do any fresh installs this time, but I think it comes with Gnome by default, which is more eye candy than I would like. I am using
IceWM on the BBS machine, and have the other one set up where I can use Gnome-flashback or LXQt.


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