And...we're off. So far, not dissappointing, though I will say, the first season of this show set the bar *very* high. There was not a lot (that is to say, very little) Anson Mount in this episode. I need more Pike and his finely coifed hair. :/

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On 16 Jun 2023 at 08:51p, Abbub pondered and said...

And...we're off. So far, not dissappointing, though I will say, the first season of this show set the bar *very* high. There was not a lot (that
is to say, very little) Anson Mount in this episode. I need more Pike
and his finely coifed hair. :/

I was just about to post something about this show also and you beat me to it :)

Yes interesting to see what they do with the characters and cast, the new (soon to be) chief engineer sounds like she has an interesting back story. I also thought it was interesting in their choice of 'bad alien race of the series' was flagged to be at the end of the episode.

Did you spot the new scenes in the opening credits? :)

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On 16 Jun 23 20:51:39 Abbub wrote...

And...we're off. So far, not dissappointing, though I will say, the
first season of this show set the bar *very* high. There was not a
lot (that is to say, very little) Anson Mount in this episode. I need
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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Yeah, I have to second the "more Pike" thing. I liked the concept of a
Spock centered episode and the character development that went with it,
but I didn't think it was appropriate for the season primere... the
Captain should have been featured more prominently (IMHO).

Still, good episode. Plan to watch it again today when I'm a little more
awake (got out of work late that day and it was probably well after 11pm
when I watched it... way past my bedtime on a "school night").

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On 17 Jun 23 20:07:42 Avon wrote...

Yes interesting to see what they do with the characters and cast, the
new (soon to be) chief engineer sounds like she has an interesting
back story. I also thought it was interesting in their choice of 'bad
alien race of the series' was flagged to be at the end of the episode.

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

On that topic... (The bad alien race). That part did irk me a little,
given that in the original series they were supposedly "discovered". But
going into that discussion could kinda be spoilerish (though that meant
you missed the whole last season... and a few episodes of "Enterprise")
and honestly... well, let's face it. As "history" re-writes go, it's
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On 17 Jun 2023 at 01:23p, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

back story. I also thought it was interesting in their choice of 'bad alien race of the series' was flagged to be at the end of the episode.

On that topic... (The bad alien race). That part did irk me a little, given that in the original series they were supposedly "discovered". But going into that discussion could kinda be spoilerish (though that meant you missed the whole last season... and a few episodes of "Enterprise")

I honestly never ended up watching all of Enterprise so perhaps I need to?
Yes I kind of thought it was a bit of low hanging fruit really to advance that race as the possible bad guy for the season... still we should wait to see what they do with it, and as you mention there;s been some references in past episodes.

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Well I thought episode 2 was really quite good, yes it was a courtroom drama but there was enough character development and back story etc. to make it work for me. What did you think?

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and, as always, it tends to deal with RL issues (past, present, and sometimes future). I enjoyed it as well!

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Avon wrote to Commodore Clifford <=-

Well I thought episode 2 was really quite good, yes it was a courtroom drama but there was enough character development and back story etc. to make it work for me. What did you think?

My first thought was it was the best hour of trek since "Into the Pale Moonlight".
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I do love me some Pike, though. I loved seeing him literally risking his
life for his crew, thought that the issue with Admiral April will come
back to haunt him, loved how he poured April's drink into his, and once
Una was back onboard, I snickered at the hug, followed by the pat on the shoulder.

WHen Spock mentioned Una's secret (harkening back to one of the Short
Treks from Discovery) I laughed out loud by myself. My wife looked at me quizzically, which she's been known to do when Star Trek is on.

Aside: Christina Chong is quite a singer and has a single out:

https://open.spotify.com/album/4FklwAcsgivMy10H2E529V




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Aside: Christina Chong is quite a singer and has a single out:

She also did an episode on BLACK MIRROR as well - just watched all 6 seasons this past couple weeks.

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On 24 Jun 2023 at 08:37a, SirRonmit pondered and said...

and, as always, it tends to deal with RL issues (past, present, and sometimes future). I enjoyed it as well!

yes I like it for those reasons also.. I wonder what EP3 has them doing next?

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On 24 Jun 23 12:27:39 Avon wrote...

Well I thought episode 2 was really quite good, yes it was a
courtroom drama but there was enough character development and back
story etc. to make it work for me. What did you think?

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike character
keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes. Not sure how I feel
about that.

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It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike character keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes. Not sure how I feel about that.

It's to bring to light the other characters' histories and development. Allows them a more of a "I am part of the crew, too" ideal. :)

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It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike character keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes. Not sure how I feel about that.

Anson Mount and his wife recently had a baby. He'll be back.

I'm watching him in SNW and Discovery, and going back to watching him in
"Hell on Wheels". Amazing hair a couple of centuries apart...



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On 18 Jul 23 08:23:43 SirRonmit wrote...

It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike
character keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes.
Not sure how I feel about that.

It's to bring to light the other characters' histories and
development. Allows them a more of a "I am part of the crew, too"
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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

For some, yes... but for me, Pike is one character that's been around
since the beginning, but we know almost nothing about him. Spock and
Uhura have been developed in other "universes"... the new characters...
yeah, I care... to a point... but Pike is the one I really wanted to know
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For some, yes... but for me, Pike is one character that's been around since the beginning, but we know almost nothing about him. Spock and Uhura have been developed in other "universes"... the new characters... yeah, I care... to a point... but Pike is the one I really wanted to know more about.

True .. I have the OG DVDs and remember seeing that episode on the reruns years ago. So I was always like, wait PIKE was in a chair at the end .. and couldn't talk .. I'm guessin' they will do that at the Series Finale' when the time comes.

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On 18 Jul 2023 at 02:46a, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike character keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes. Not sure how I feel about that.

I think they want to give each character some decent exposure and storyline.

I'm really enjoying the writing and overall development of this show.

Much better than Discovery and other more recent Trek

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On 23 Jul 23 11:58:04 Avon wrote...

On 18 Jul 2023 at 02:46a, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

It's been great so far... but it seems like the Captain Pike
character keeps taking more of a back seat in some episodes.
Not sure how I feel about that.

I think they want to give each character some decent exposure and storyline.

I'm really enjoying the writing and overall development of this show.

Much better than Discovery and other more recent Trek

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

That much is true. It's very good quality.

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I thought the Lower Decks crossover was a good one, and although I have not watched many episodes at all of Lower Decks the show did enough to carry both franchises well and got me curious about the animated series.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Avon to All on Sat Jul 29 2023 04:10 pm

I thought the Lower Decks crossover was a good one, and although I have not watched many episodes at all of Lower Decks the show did enough to carry both franchises well and got me curious about the animated series.

My wife and I just watched that episode last night. I thought it was pretty good.

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I actually laughed at this one .. L.D. makes me smirk or chuckle here and there, but to have them LIVE doing what they see themselves doing in the animation was awesome.

... and almost all of that was improved.

Put them on SNL, and I bet the ratings would go up.

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On 29 Jul 2023 at 08:01a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

I liked Jack Quaid in "The Boys", and it took me a moment to recognize
his voice in Lower Decks. He embodied the animated Boimler well, and I loved the yelp when Spock tells him to "seek cover".

I liked the Riker call out and this apparently happened with Jonathon Frakes was on set :)

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On 29 Jul 2023 at 01:11p, Nightfox pondered and said...

My wife and I just watched that episode last night. I thought it was pretty good.

apparently there's a musical episode coming out, on that count I am not so sure but hey, they are certainly pushing the boundaries a bit with the writing and directions taken this season. But doing it in a respectful way I think to the cannon.

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On 29 Jul 2023 at 04:31p, SirRonmit pondered and said...

I actually laughed at this one .. L.D. makes me smirk or chuckle here and there, but to have them LIVE doing what they see themselves doing in the animation was awesome.

I think there's a show with Wil Wheaton called The Ready Room that covers this (and other) episodes. I've not yet looked at it but may seek this episode coverage out.

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I liked the Riker call out and this apparently happened with Jonathon Frakes was on set :)

If you are able, watch Will Weaton's READY ROOM where he had the 2 L.D. actors on it .. you learn a lot more of what actually happened and how much stuff was ad-lib.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Avon to Nightfox on Sun Jul 30 2023 02:35 pm

apparently there's a musical episode coming out, on that count I am not so sure but hey, they are certainly pushing the boundaries a bit with the writing and directions taken this season. But doing it in a respectful way I think to the cannon.

noo! not a musical episode!

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it took me a moment to recognize his voice in Lower Decks

For some reason I didn't recognize it at all. Even when I watched the episode, I wasn't aware that guy was the voice! Weird. I'm usually good at tha

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it took me a moment to recognize his voice in Lower Decks

For some reason I didn't recognize it at all. Even when I watched the episode, I wasn't aware that guy was the voice! Weird. I'm usually good

Not me, I instantly recognized his voice -- but I didn't know it was THE voice actor (along with her) until I watched the aftershow.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Avon on Sat Jul 29 2023 08:01 am

I liked Jack Quaid in "The Boys", and it took me a moment to recognize his voice in Lower Decks. He embodied the animated Boimler well, and I loved the yelp when Spock tells him to "seek cover".

When reading about the Lower Decks / Strange New Worlds crossover episode, I read that they drew the Lower Decks characters to look (at least somewhat) like their voice actors. That ended up making the crossover episode work fairly well, as it was a live-action episode and the voice actors appeared as themselves.

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When reading about the Lower Decks / Strange New Worlds crossover
episode, I read that they drew the Lower Decks characters to look (at least somewhat) like their voice actors. That ended up making the crossover episode work fairly well, as it was a live-action episode and the voice actors appeared as themselves.

true statement

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Hey All,

Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

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Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

Yeah, was NOT a fan of E09 either. Should have had more variety to the music styles, and the Klingon Backstreet Boys should have been left on the cutting room floor. Or at the very least, not have them raid the Gold Rangers closet. All that gold lemma was VERY un-Klingon!

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Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

Yeah, was NOT a fan of E09 either. Should have had more variety to the
music styles, and the Klingon Backstreet Boys should have been left on the
cutting room floor. Or at the very least, not have them raid the Gold
Rangers closet. All that gold lemma was VERY un-Klingon!

Hi Geri,

I ended up, fast forwarding to the end and benched it, it's supposed to be scifi, and unfortunately it was just disappointing. Feels like the writers
have lost the plot.

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Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Nick Mackechnie to All on Sun Aug 06 2023 02:58 pm

Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

I like what they're doing this season. It seems more light-hearted in places and different from what they've usually been doing (in a good way).

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Geri Atricks to Nick Mackechnie on Sun Aug 06 2023 04:03 am

Yeah, was NOT a fan of E09 either. Should have had more variety to the music styles, and the Klingon Backstreet Boys should have been left on the cutting room floor. Or at the very least, not have them raid the Gold Rangers closet. All that gold lemma was VERY un-Klingon!

I think the un-Klingonness of it was the whole point, and it made that one of the best scenes ever. As one of the Klingons said earlier in the episode, they had faced dishonor for their singing they were made to do out there.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Nick Mackechnie to Geri Atricks on Mon Aug 07 2023 07:59 am

Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

I ended up, fast forwarding to the end and benched it, it's supposed to be scifi, and unfortunately it was just disappointing. Feels like the writers have lost the plot.

IMO sci-fi doesn't have to be all serious all the time, and it's good to mix things up a bit sometimes. I think it's good to have some comic relief sometimes. I guess that's why I like The Orville too..

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IMO sci-fi doesn't have to be all serious all the time, and it's good to mix things up a bit sometimes. I think it's good to have some comic relief sometimes. I guess that's why I like The Orville too..

and KILLJOYS :)

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Nightfox wrote to Geri Atricks <=-

I think the un-Klingonness of it was the whole point, and it made that
one of the best scenes ever. As one of the Klingons said earlier in
the episode, they had faced dishonor for their singing they were made
to do out there.

I thought it was perfectly done - was totally set up for Klingon opera,
not expecting a boy band. I laughed out loud with headphones on in a
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SirRonmit wrote to Nightfox <=-

and KILLJOYS :)

I should try Killjoys again. When I first watched it, it felt like it
borrowed a lot from Firefly, and it was Too Soon.



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I should try Killjoys again. When I first watched it, it felt like it borrowed a lot from Firefly, and it was Too Soon.

FIREFLY - I liked that one too!

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: SirRonmit to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 08 2023 11:40 am

I should try Killjoys again. When I first watched it, it felt like
it borrowed a lot from Firefly, and it was Too Soon.

FIREFLY - I liked that one too!

What was it about?

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On 29 Jul 2023 at 10:02p, SirRonmit pondered and said...

If you are able, watch Will Weaton's READY ROOM where he had the 2 L.D. actors on it .. you learn a lot more of what actually happened and how much stuff was ad-lib.

I've yet to do this but plan to, thanks :)

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On 30 Jul 2023 at 03:12a, candycane pondered and said...

noo! not a musical episode!

I know I thought the same, but on the whole it was done well.

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On 06 Aug 2023 at 02:58p, Nick Mackechnie pondered and said...

Can't say I'm loving Star Trek SNW E09... This season is 'fluffy' .....

I like the season overall, I think they have written a bunch of different stories and tried to push things in different directions... but the sing along episode was always going to divide :)

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I know I thought the same, but on the whole it was done well.

I wasn't expecting that (after watching the pre-show). But I was impressed on how well they all could sing (and didn't know about the Academy Award for one singer/actress).

I was not happy/impressed with the Klingon Boy-Band skit though; reminded me of how SNL is still trying to be funny today. After watching the aftershow, though, I was happy they brought back one character from the previous season for it.

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On 10 Aug 2023 at 08:01a, SirRonmit pondered and said...

I was not happy/impressed with the Klingon Boy-Band skit though;
reminded me of how SNL is still trying to be funny today. After watching

I agree with that, it felt over the top to me also.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: SirRonmit to Avon on Thu Aug 10 2023 08:01 am

I was not happy/impressed with the Klingon Boy-Band skit though; reminded me of how SNL is still trying to be funny today. After watching the aftershow, though, I was happy they brought back one character from the previous season for it.

I thought the Klingon scene was one of the funniest scenes in the episode.
I haven't watched SNL in quite a while though. Trying or not, I feel like most of the time now it's just not really funny. SNL goes through ups & downs though. Hopefully it will be funny again at some point.

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On 29 Jul 23 16:10:22 Avon wrote...

I thought the Lower Decks crossover was a good one, and although I
have not watched many episodes at all of Lower Decks the show did
enough to carry both franchises well and got me curious about the
animated series.

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Actually, that Lower Decks crossover almost made me not watch the show.
In fact, I actually waited a whole week and only then because I heard the episode with the Klingon ambassador was worth watching. I really hated
that character (the crossover purple haired idiot). It just didn't seem
like it belonged in a very out of place way.

Then... the musical.

I ended up not watching that one after five minutes. I eventually
(again, a week later) gave it a chance... but... It took some alcohol
(and I can't really do that much anymore, so I might be parting ways with
the series).

Ok, in the end, the musical wasn't so bad, and I liked the season
cliffhanger enough... but they better keep these episodes few and far
between.

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On 08 Aug 23 07:28:00 poindexter FORTRAN wrote...

Nightfox wrote to Geri Atricks <=-

I think the un-Klingonness of it was the whole point, and it
made that one of the best scenes ever. As one of the Klingons
said earlier in the episode, they had faced dishonor for their
singing they were made to do out there.

I thought it was perfectly done - was totally set up for Klingon
opera, not expecting a boy band. I laughed out loud with headphones
on in a dark room by myself.

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

I required alcohol to get through it.

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On 08 Aug 23 07:28:00 poindexter FORTRAN wrote...

SirRonmit wrote to Nightfox <=-

and KILLJOYS :)

I should try Killjoys again. When I first watched it, it felt like it borrowed a lot from Firefly, and it was Too Soon.

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

*hugs poindexter*

It will always be "Too Soon".... I'm sorry for our loss.

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On 08 Aug 23 18:23:35 candycane wrote...

FIREFLY - I liked that one too!

What was it about?

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

I'm just going to glare at you angrily until you Google it and tell us
how sorry you are for not ever knowing about it before now.

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Commodore Clifford to Avon on Tue Aug 22 2023 07:44 pm

Actually, that Lower Decks crossover almost made me not watch the show. In

Then... the musical.

I ended up not watching that one after five minutes. I eventually (again,

Those were two of the best episodes of the entire series....

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Commodore Clifford to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 22 2023 07:49 pm

I required alcohol to get through it.

Because it was so good?

candycane

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Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
By: Commodore Clifford to candycane on Tue Aug 22 2023 07:52 pm

I'm just going to glare at you angrily until you Google it and tell us
how sorry you are for not ever knowing about it before now.

Sorry, it looks pretty cool.

candycane

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it felt over the top to me also.

Very glad I didn't see the end of it. I fell asleep somewhere through the episode, and I don't think I'll be going back to rewatch it.

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On 23 Aug 23 14:55:29 phigan wrote...

it felt over the top to me also.

Very glad I didn't see the end of it. I fell asleep somewhere through
the episode, and I don't think I'll be going back to rewatch it.

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

You kinda have to watch the Klingon Boy Band scene... I mean, you really can't.

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On 23 Aug 23 00:26:35 candycane wrote...

Re: Re: Strange New Worlds By: Commodore Clifford to poindexter
FORTRAN on Tue Aug 22 2023 07:49 pm

I required alcohol to get through it.

Because it was so good?

To which Commodore Clifford replies...

No... Because in the same way after a few (dozen, in some cases) beers
the ugly chick starts to look like she wouldn't fighten small children.

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On 22 Aug 2023 at 07:44p, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

Ok, in the end, the musical wasn't so bad, and I liked the season cliffhanger enough... but they better keep these episodes few and far between.

I thought the cliff hanger was rather predictable but good to see another series will (sometime down the track) occur... I'd certainly watch the next one. :)

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On 22 Aug 2023 at 07:49p, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

I required alcohol to get through it.

this could be a quote for a t-shirt print :)

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On 23 Aug 2023 at 02:55p, phigan pondered and said...

Very glad I didn't see the end of it. I fell asleep somewhere through the episode, and I don't think I'll be going back to rewatch it.

fair enough :)

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I required alcohol to get through it.

this could be a quote for a t-shirt print :)

I think I've seen that exact quote on a tshirt before.

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On 02 Sep 23 15:23:06 Avon wrote...

On 22 Aug 2023 at 07:49p, Commodore Clifford pondered and said...

I required alcohol to get through it.

this could be a quote for a t-shirt print :)

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To which Commodore Clifford replies...

Oh, with the picture of the Klingon Boy Band and everything. I might
have to make that.


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