• Upgrading my computer

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to All on Sunday, March 31, 2024 10:20:29
    I dont really want to spend 1400 bucks for a new desktop. I do not really play PC games aside from Final Fantasy 14. I am thinking of replacing my Nvidia 1070
    graphics card with an AMD 6650XT and replace my power supply with a 600 watt power supply instead of a 500 watt. I think that would help my older AMD motherboard. I think this could be done for under 400 bucks.


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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Utopian Galt on Sunday, March 31, 2024 16:27:00
    On 31 Mar 2024, Utopian Galt said the following...

    graphics card with an AMD 6650XT and replace my power supply with a 600 watt power supply instead of a 500 watt. I think that would help my
    older AMD motherboard. I think this could be done for under 400 bucks.

    i really liked my RX6600 .. and in the radeon software i just clicked "auto-overclock" and it netted me a decent bonus too.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Utopian Galt on Sunday, March 31, 2024 19:01:05
    I dont really want to spend 1400 bucks for a new desktop. I do not
    really play PC games aside from Final Fantasy 14. I am thinking of replacing my Nvidia 1070 graphics card with an AMD 6650XT and replace my UG> power supply with a 600 watt power supply instead of a 500 watt. I think UG> that would help my older AMD motherboard. I think this could be done for UG> under 400 bucks.

    While the setup you mention might spec out to $400, you can get a lot of CPU for that price in 2024 - I was recently surprised at the Ryzen APUs; might not be up yer alley since you know what kind of GPU you want, but take a peek - it MIGHT be within budget to upgrade more than you think...



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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Paulie420 on Sunday, March 31, 2024 21:32:14
    BY: paulie420 (21:2/150)

    |11p|09> |10While the setup you mention might spec out to $400, you can get a lot of|07
    |11p|09> |10CPU for that price in 2024 - I was recently surprised at the Ryzen APUs;|07
    |11p|09> |10might not be up yer alley since you know what kind of GPU you want, but|07
    |11p|09> |10take a peek - it MIGHT be within budget to upgrade more than you|07 I have a ryzen 5700x on an older 350 amd motherboard. But I dont want to pay for a motherboard swap yet. Im just going to get a powersupply upgrade and a new gpu upgrade that can handle pci 3.0.


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to paulie420 on Monday, April 01, 2024 06:11:58
    While the setup you mention might spec out to $400, you can get a lot of CPU for that price in 2024 - I was recently surprised at the Ryzen APUs; might not be up yer alley since you know what kind of GPU you want, but take a peek - it MIGHT be within budget to upgrade more than you think...

    I keep hearing great things about the Ryzen. I built a few desktops back in my day with AMD, and every single time I've done that I ALWAYS eventually had heating issues on the processor. I was constantly re-applying thermal past every 6-12 months after the first year... This was on 3 systems I built using the same specs on all three except for the video card.

    Has AMD gotten better when it comes to heat?

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to niter3 on Monday, April 01, 2024 19:58:19
    I keep hearing great things about the Ryzen. I built a few desktops back in my day with AMD, and every single time I've done that I ALWAYS eventually had heating issues on the processor. I was constantly re-applying thermal past every 6-12 months after the first year... This was on 3 systems I built using the same specs on all three except for
    the video card.

    I think I remember this around the 586/686 timeframe??? However, AMD isn't the new kid on the block anymore. Many folks think they're the king of the hill.

    I've never used a Ryzen chip, but I certainly want to...



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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 05:55:46
    I think I remember this around the 586/686 timeframe??? However, AMD
    isn't the new kid on the block anymore. Many folks think they're the
    king of the hill.

    I'm going to have to do some additional research in this area.

    My son is wants to upgrade his PC and is saving his coin to do so.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to niter3 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 08:06:00
    niter3 wrote to paulie420 <=-

    My son is wants to upgrade his PC and is saving his coin to do so.

    My son keeps complaining that his computer is too slow, he's got
    something like an 8th gen i7, 64 (!) gigs of RAM, an SSD and a fairly
    decent video card.

    When he was 15 or so, I sent him to a computer camp at the local junior college. They spent the week going over computer components and built a
    couple of PCs, did basic troubleshooting, and learned a lot. He
    unfortunately forgot it all and lost his mind trying to upgrade an OEM
    PC with a new video card. Had to buy an adapter cable for aux power,
    then the power supply wasn't big enough. Proprietary power supply mount
    meant an off-the-shelf PS needed tweaking to fit.

    I convinced him to put it back together, sell it, and use the proceeds
    to buy a standard case, power supply and motherboard. That's worked out
    pretty well.

    I just buy off-lease Dell Optiplexes. But, I'm playing DOOM II, mostly.




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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 09:29:02
    Re: Re: Upgrading my computer
    By: paulie420 to niter3 on Mon Apr 01 2024 07:58 pm

    I think I remember this around the 586/686 timeframe??? However, AMD isn't the new kid on the block anymore. Many folks think they're the king of the hill.

    AMD is almost as old as Intel.. Intel was founded in 1968, and AMD was founded just a year later, in 1969. I was using AMD processors in my home computers since the early 90s (though lately I've been using Intel). I've never seen AMD as the new kid on the block. And AMD and Intel have both been ahead of each other at different points in time.

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 14:07:58
    My son keeps complaining that his computer is too slow, he's got
    something like an 8th gen i7, 64 (!) gigs of RAM, an SSD and a fairly decent video card.

    When he was 15 or so, I sent him to a computer camp at the local junior college. They spent the week going over computer components and built a couple of PCs, did basic troubleshooting, and learned a lot. He unfortunately forgot it all and lost his mind trying to upgrade an OEM
    PC with a new video card. Had to buy an adapter cable for aux power,
    then the power supply wasn't big enough. Proprietary power supply mount meant an off-the-shelf PS needed tweaking to fit.

    I convinced him to put it back together, sell it, and use the proceeds
    to buy a standard case, power supply and motherboard. That's worked out pretty well.

    I just buy off-lease Dell Optiplexes. But, I'm playing DOOM II, mostly.



    This is exactly what I did. I had a old Lenovo server with proprietary PSU, USB 3, Panel switch adapters.

    Pain in the ass, but this got him into a new case so he can start building...

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  • From Newtype Len@21:2/148 to niter3 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 12:31:00
    When he's ready, have him check out PC Part Picker at pcpartpicker.com. It's
    a database that checks current prices on parts as well as compatbilit
    between components (does that PSU fit in that case, etc). A great site for helping you build a computer.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Newtype Len on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 12:49:18
    Re: Upgrading my computer
    By: Newtype Len to niter3 on Tue Apr 02 2024 12:31 pm

    When he's ready, have him check out PC Part Picker at pcpartpicker.com. It's a database that checks current prices on parts as well as compatbilit between components (does that PSU fit in that case, etc). A great site for


    I missed pricewatch.com, glad to see a site's taking the slack.
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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Newtype Len on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 16:54:29
    On 02 Apr 2024, Newtype Len said the following...

    When he's ready, have him check out PC Part Picker at pcpartpicker.com. It's a database that checks current prices on parts as well as
    compatbilit between components (does that PSU fit in that case, etc). A great site for helping you build a computer.

    Will do

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 23:03:40
    Hello paulie420,

    01 Apr 24 19:58, you wrote to niter3:

    I keep hearing great things about the Ryzen. I built a few
    desktops back in my day with AMD, and every single time I've done
    that I ALWAYS eventually had heating issues on the processor. I
    was constantly re-applying thermal past every 6-12 months after
    the first year... This was on 3 systems I built using the same
    specs on all three except for the video card.

    I think I remember this around the 586/686 timeframe??? However, AMD
    isn't the new kid on the block anymore. Many folks think they're the
    king of the hill.

    I've never used a Ryzen chip, but I certainly want to...

    i have two ryzen cpu based machines, one in the office and one at home, both have the warpc role with some nvidia gfx cards.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 15:00:17
    Re: Upgrading my computer
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Newtype Len on Tue Apr 02 2024 12:49 pm

    I missed pricewatch.com, glad to see a site's taking the slack.

    I miss pricewatch. I used to use it quite a bit in the late 90s and early 2000s when buying computer parts. But then they started changing it, and at some point it just wasn't useful anymore. I don't think I could even find what I was looking for there anymore.

    It seems like a lot of independent computer parts stores in my area have closed over the years, and I imagine it may be similar everywhere, so pricewatch probably isn't relevant anymore anyway. These days, I mainly buy computer parts from Amazon and Newegg. I might occasionally buy a USB flash drive, keybaord, router, or a mouse or something from my local Best Buy (and they price match with Amazon), but not very often.

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to paulie420 on Tuesday, April 02, 2024 19:52:19
    On 01 Apr 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    I've never used a Ryzen chip, but I certainly want to...

    the ones in the mini pcs are insane. easily wiped out all of intel's low power offerings.

    ~$400 gets you something just as usable as your average main pc..

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Niter3 on Friday, April 05, 2024 21:40:19
    BY: niter3 (21:1/199)

    |11n|09> |10I keep hearing great things about the Ryzen. I built a few desktops back|07
    |11n|09> |10in my day with AMD, and every single time I've done that I ALWAYS|07
    |11n|09> |10eventually had heating issues on the processor. I was constantly|07 |11n|09> |10re-applying thermal past every 6-12 months after the first year... This|07
    |11n|09> |10was on 3 systems I built using the same specs on all three except for|07
    |11n|09> |10the video card.|07
    I have a used ryzen 1700 processor I can give to a good home. Just the cost of shipping.


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