"Anyway, has anyone played Ultima IV? Is there any interest in a Terminal Graphics game?"

I've played Ultima IV through on my Atari ST. Loved it. I also did the
same for Ultima III and Ultima V. I have Ultima VI as well, but have not completed it on my ST yet.

I absolutely love III, IV, and V. Some of the best RPG's ever. The back
story, the concept, the characters, love it all. :)


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I've never played any Ultima game, but I did play my share of Roguelikes.
I've even wrote one as an experience in learning Rust. https://smokku.itch.io/roguelike

Does Ultima IV differ much from a typical Roguelike?
as these are very popular now. People are writing a ton.
There even is an annual event - see https://7drl.com/

I was thinking about bringing my game online, but I could not reconcile the turn-based nature of Roguelike with real-time nature of online gaming.
One player cannot wait indefinitely for other player turn.

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Re: RE: Ultima IV Terminal
By: smokku to Darklord on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:37 am

I was thinking about bringing my game online, but I could not reconcile the turn-based nature of Roguelike with real-time nature of online gaming.
One player cannot wait indefinitely for other player turn.

There is a multiplayer roguelike based on Angband. They make it work because they use a ticking clock.

Basically, the game takes a turn and everybody goes at a given time interval. If you don't issue a command before a tick, the game takes a default action for you (so, if you are being pounded by an orc and you don't issue a command for whatever reason, your character bashes the orc by default).


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On 2024-04-03 0:16 Arelor said...

There is a multiplayer roguelike based on Angband. They make it work because they use a ticking clock.

To me this approach takes worst of both worlds.
It is neither turn-based, nor real-time.

You cannot analyze all your options and take best approach in a rogulike fashion,
nor can you proceed at your own pace like in a real-time game.

Sounds like a compromise (noone is happy), not a solution.

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On 03 Apr 24 08:37:29 smokku wrote...

I've never played any Ultima game, but I did play my share of
Roguelikes. I've even wrote one as an experience in learning Rust. https://smokku.itch.io/roguelike

Does Ultima IV differ much from a typical Roguelike? as these are
very popular now. People are writing a ton. There even is an annual
event - see https://7drl.com/

I was thinking about bringing my game online, but I could not
reconcile the turn-based nature of Roguelike with real-time nature of online gaming. One player cannot wait indefinitely for other player
turn.

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To which Darklord replies...

I've played a handful of Rogue games or "Rogue like" games. I like
NetHack a lot. Rogue on the Atari ST is pretty good as well.

The Ultima series is really a different genre than Rogue and it's ilk,
IMHO. Ultima 3-4-5 (my favs), have a far greater variety when it comes to gameplay. With Rogue you've got...a dungeon. With the Ultima series you
have got a dungeon (or multiple dungeons), as well as a surface world,
towns, castles, lakes, rivers, even pirate ships that you can fight and capture. It's great "old school" stuff. :)


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On 2024-04-04 2:02 Darklord said...

gameplay. With Rogue you've got...a dungeon. With the Ultima series you have got a dungeon (or multiple dungeons), as well as a surface world, towns, castles, lakes, rivers, even pirate ships that you can fight and

Roguelikes evolved much since the bare Rogue/NetHack.
Most popular ones follow the Diablo formula of overworld/town and randomly generated dungeons. For an awesome example try "Caves of Qud". You may find it a lot alike Ultima IV. It even has similar graphics.

Even my own little Roguelike starts in a seashore town, then you enter the forest, before going dungeons. :-)

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